Pacific Van Lines Moving – (Editors Note:Also Known As Desi Movers Inc., Dynamic Movers, Dynamite Movers, Comfortable Movers Etc., Etc.)
After seeing an advertisement in the Toronto Star, on Friday, July 3, 2009, I, Lenea Grace, telephoned Pacific Van Lines Moving at (416) 999-6577 and spoke to a man on the phone about a moving quote. I explained that I needed movers for 2 pm on Sunday, July 5 and that I would be moving from a 1-bedroom apartment to a 3rd floor bachelor apartment approximately 3 km away from the original apartment. The man quoted me at $40/hour plus a one-time fee of $40 for their travel time. This would include all moving expenses and the labour of two moving men. He also said it would take 2-3 hours maximum. So, he had given me a maximum quote of $160 plus tax. I asked if there would be a deposit and he said no. I wrote all of this down.
On Sunday, July 5, 2009, two movers from Pacific Van Lines Moving named Joseph and Michael showed up in a beat-up van with no logo on the sides. They asked for a $350 deposit in cash before they would begin to work. I also signed a contract at this time and learned there would be more fees than the original quote had stated: a minimum of 4 hours labour (totaling $160) and a stairs charge of $20 per mover per flight per location (totaling $80). None of the other extra charges applied to me. At that time, my quote was raised to $280 plus tax.
The movers were slow and took about 1.5 hours of smoking breaks in total. They scratched my walls and my furniture, often ripping large chunks of paint of both walls and furniture.
Before we drove to the new location, the movers presented me with a bill for $747.50. I was shocked and asked about all the charges on the bill:
Labour: $240 (Charged for 4 hours of labour PLUS two hours of travel time)
Travelling cost: $40
Stair charge: $160 (Overcharged by $80)
Heavy item: $80 (There were no items over 50 kg as stated in the contract)
Kilometers: $30
Misc: $100 (They claimed this was for the “long walk” from my apt to the parking lot. My apt is in front of the elevator which lands in the front foyer which opens directly in front of the parking lot. In total, it is about a 5-meter walk).
They told me to phone their boss at 416-999-6577 and so I did. I calmly expressed my concern at the outrageous charges that did not match my quote or the contract. The man on the phone told me he was the manager but when I asked him to correct and remove some of the charges he informed me that “it is Sunday and I can’t do anything about it. Take it to court”. I asked for his name and he hung up on me.
At that time all of my belongings were in the van. I had no other way of moving my things, so I told them I was paying under protest and paid the remaining balance. I gave them $400 and the moving men did not have the $2.50 change to give me.
When we got to my new apartment at 448 Shaw Street, the movers told me that there would be ANOTHER $120 charge to move my belongings up the stairs. I refused to pay. Then they unloaded all of my things onto the sidewalk. I asked them why they were refusing to do their job that I had already paid them to do. They told me “their boss wouldn’t let them”. Then Michael looked at me and said, “Bitch I’m from the ghetto. I don’t give a shit”. Then they drove off, leaving me with all of my things on the sidewalk.
This is ridiculous. The service was sub-par, rude, and wrecked most of my furniture. It was truly daylight robbery.
When I researched this “business” on the Internet after this horrible incident, I learned that this company is licensed under the business number 1715130 Ontario Inc. and has gone under many names, like Desi Movers or Dynamic Movers in addition to Pacific Van Lines Moving. There was an article in the Toronto Star on August 15, 2008 about the same company scamming people, and yet, the very same company advertised in the Star just two weeks ago. I will be contacting the Toronto Star as soon as possible.
I would like to be reimbursed for all charges, as this was a complete waste of my money and time, as well as proven false advertising and a breach against the Consumer Protection Act.


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Pacific Van Lines moving
1154 Warden Avenue Suite 154
Scarborough, Ontario
416-999-6577
Date of Scam—August 21/09
My partner and I purchased a couch on line that we saw on Craig’s List.
We live at Yonge and St. Clair and we needed to transport it from Broadview and Gerrard.
Since we don’t have a truck we searched on-line for a company to move it here.
We found the above movers on Kijiji.
Despite the ad on line which quoted $38.00 an hr I was quoted a flat rate of $120 to move it.
When I called yesterday to confirm the delivery I was told to have cash in the amount of $138.00 which included the taxes.
When the drivers appeared at my door they had me sign a piece of paper which I thought was a delivery slip. It was in fact a contract with terms and conditions that had them raise the price to $265.00.
They tricked me into signing the paper and therefore becoming legally bound to a contract with additional charges.
When my partner called to say this wasn’t what we were quoted the owner of the company said “read the fine print”
They refused to give us our couch until we gave them the full $265.00.
While my partner walked to the bank to take out money I called the police.
I was grateful that they came so quickly. They confirmed that this company has been investigated several times but since I signed the contract there was nothing they could do.
They did not give me a proper receipt. They are clearly not remitting taxes to the government.
As the drivers were finally bringing the couch into the condo they admitted that this has happened to them several times before. They said” At least the police came fast this time”.
I have checked tehm out on the net and it is clear we were not the only victims of these scam artists.
They must be stopped.
I was quoted an all inclusive fee of $120
They came and took two smoke breaks (asking for MY cigarttes), three water breaks moved very slowly carrying very small loads, one drawer at a time.
They brought boxes and light items down and deposited on the driveway, and presented me with an invoice of $546 less the $200 deposit. Balance owing, $346.
There was also a third person present beside the truck that never made his presence known but my daughter saw his feet. After that I asked for the boss’s number as he was in communication with the “boss”, one of the movers told me that he has never met his boss and only knows his supervisors. I called the number from the ad on craigslist and talked to someone named “Jay” and was advised that the money had to be paid or the job could not be completed. Not having that kind of cash they said the job would not be completed and left with my $200 deposit. As this was a cash only deal I am not scammed $200.
Look for me in small claims court!
Hi everybody
I have been scammed exactly the same way as LeGrace001 (including amounts, details and times), last September 1st 2009. Although the the episode did not go as far to include “the moving in”. I was charged $690 for a job that was supposed to be $160 (3 hour work) and they made me sign a “contract” making me think it was a security deposit receipt. And when given the final detail of services amounts, I noticed that they were not charging any taxes and the form corresponded to DMS 1715130 ONTARIO INC.!
Could we figure out how to stop this to happen again to others? This should not finish at the Small Claims Court.
Logan Movers did a move for me today. Same shit as what I am reading here and something needs to be done. I am going to do research and to start am going to report them to Rev Can for tax evasion. I will also go to the BBB. From there, I am not going to comment on what I will do next……
Neal your not alone. Logan movers are the biggest scammers just like Desi Movers.
I just want to tell you that your blog is very interesting, bookmarked
guys/girls..
I have been scammed by these buggers also, going to BBB and going to authorities is gonna be a waste of time..if you really want to get back at them..keep calling them under different names and give them false address making them drive around the city without a real customer and make them waste money on gas…
They arrested them on Thursday May 20th, 2010. It’s in the Toronto Sun newspaper for Friday may 21st, on page 12.
went to the police today to discuss. Original quote 500.00, took the stuff down the elevator and some stuff was put in the truck, some left on grass. They demanded another 1200.00. They need jail time for this.
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